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It's not surprising new net folks get confused. Who are they to believe if they're not techie minded and don't understand the workings of nofollow or dofollow attributes.
also, I'm still a little fuzzy on exactly what a no follow link is? Is it link that is now inactive? I'm not certain.
Thanks!
You seem to be writing quite a bit about MLM these days. Is there something we should know? ...are you planning on "coming out of the closet" about your real opinion about multilevel marketing? :0)
I just getting overwhelmed with this internet markeing, just cant seem to get out of the newbie tag :-(
This is totally out of left field but when is the music mastermind coming out? Do you have any dates? I'm really looking forward to it.
Thanks.
I just wanted to tell ya a couple of things. Your pdf "Social Media Daily" was a really good read and full of great info.Also, great blog... good info and down to earth...
I'm getting ready to launch a site that you might really like, so maybe when I'm ready for a few beta-testers, you might be interested.
I know you'll give me your real opinion as a beta-tester and not bullshit me, etc. Anyways, let me know if your interested. Thanks again for the great info. TTYL
Jason Counts
JasonCounts.Com
So basically you would need 5 "no-follow" links to equal the value of one regular link.
That would be an interesting test too.
Great Posting again.
I also think that even nofollow links would help achieving better rankings.
But i also think that your little case study doesn´t tell much because of this seldom searched keyword.
@ John Thomas - I'm never opposed to an additional income stream, but no, no big MLM secrets to reveal. :-)
@Eric - I'm having a hard time with Musician's Mastermind because I've found that most musician's don't care to learn the nitty gritty details of online promotion. They hate marketing and balk at anything technical. So I'm not certain where that's going. Perhaps I'll email the list and get some feedback.
@John M - Nofollow is followed, that's established. The test was to see if nofollow links could still cause a site to rank for a keyword - they're not supposed to. But it seems they do.
A word on Page Rank - stop chasing the little green bar!
@ SEO - I would think they count "less" then a regular link. But I think that'd be near impossible to test, sine you'd have to link from different domains, each would have different "strenghts" in Googe, you wouldn't know which link actually caused the rank. Too many variables.
@ Sandra - Getting links from places that "nofollow" is not a waste of time.
@Shopping - the point wasn't to rank for a massive keyword. The point was to see if it was at all possible to rank for a term with only nofollow links. If I'd chosen "weight loss" or some other such competitive term, I'd never see the results, because it's difficult to rank for with even hundreds of legit dofollow links. I wasn't trying to put a year of my life into this, LOL, just a quick experiment.
Google ranks sites differently based on how popular the search term is. To make a complex story short, Google makes it harder to rank for keywords (or phrases) that carry a PPC cost of $.50 or higher. The higher the cost, the harder to rank.
The higher you have to bid on a term on the PPC side the harder it is to rank for that keyword organically. The algorithm shifts based on the real dollar value of the keyword. Google's PPC system does talk to the organic ranking algorithm.
This has been verified by myself, Jerry West and Russell Wright.
On keywords with no activity Google will rank you at the top just because you are fresh and new. It probably had nothing to do with no-follow links passing link love.
It would be interesting to see this study conducted on a competitive phrase to be able to better assess the theory.
- Charles Heflin
SEO20/20
There were a few videos from Stompernet about a month or so ago that showed how to use nofollow tags on your internal pages.
Frank Bruno
http://videomarketingtactics.com/
The point wasn't "Look, I got a #1 rank with 15 blog comments" (because that's silly, it's a useless keyphrase with no competition and even less searches) but rather "Look, a site can get into Google results for a keyphrase with nothing but nofollow links."
It's not an issue of competitive phrases, that's entirely not the point here. I didn't rank for the phrase, then I linked to my site with the phrase on nofollow blogs and then I ranked. This isn't meant to say you can rank for whatever competitive term by using blog comments, it's meant to say that nofollow links still do contribute to one's site rank and are a worthwhile strategy (in addition to one's overall link building strategy).
I want to learn the nitty gritty of online promotion. I'm a musician with a business mindset. Is there anyway if those retarted musician who don't like marketing(seeing that when your an indie artist marketing is what will make you successful duh) don't want your information that you will sell it on a individual basis? I would LOVE to have the information that you provide, actually your information is one of my marketing plans to promote my music. Pretty please I trust you, I brought tubeinator and it was wonderful. I know you know your stuff when it comes to online promotion.
Spiders CAN read nofollow links but they wont pass PR through them.
What do you think about that?
You said you used Comment Hut to find the 15 blogs to comment on. I thought Comment Hut only offers up blogs that DON'T have the "no-follow" tags.
@James, yes, they can read nofollow, they follow nofollow, and they still "count" nofollow links towards your sites overall link profile. Whether they pass PR or not is impossible to know, it would require a site get nothing but nofollow links for 3-6 months. Regardless, PR is not important.
@Earning - (1) No (2) no, the terms wasn't on the blog before I made the post, and it ranked before the post. There doesn't NEED to be links to a site with a keyphrase as anchor text for that site to rank for the keyphrase, it helps though.
@Beth - No, CommentHut finds blogs about a keyword and doesn't look into follow/nofollow. They've tested as well and found it irrelevant. Read more about their findings at http://www.commenthut/michelle/
Us SEO's have never been happy with the idea of the "nofollow", since the number of crawl-throughs has historically been thought of as Popularity-influencer. The algorithm as we know it, is Relevancy + Popularity = High Ranking.
That being said, nofollow has never been associated with "noindex". Link text and the URL associated with that link text have never had anything to do with whether a bot should or should not crawl through the link (and both are absolutely recorded by the crawlers, even if not followed).
Point 2: Toolbars
Google claims that it doesn't use the toolbar to track where you're surfing: http://www.google.com/support/toolbar/bin/answe.... However, we know better than that. Several us have created isolated, non-linked pages and have visited those pages with an active toolbar, only to find the page indexed in a matter of weeks.
Even though a link might not be crawled, it's still indexed, and recorded in the search engine's database. When Googlebot or Slurp do evaluate the website, it matches the URL with the link text previously recorded and if the keyword-optimized content correlates with the link text recorded - BAAM! You have ranking.
Great post - I'm in total agreement.
There's a lot of confusion about the topic of "no follow."
Here's the short version of what rel="nofollow" is (according to Wikipedia) and why this has zero effect on your use of any of the tools that Michelle has
mentioned in her post...
"nofollow is an HTML attribute value used to instruct search engines that a hyperlink should not influence the link target's ranking in the search engine's
index."
The main point in that sentence is...
"used to instruct search engines that a hyperlink should not influence the link target's ranking in the search engine's"
When assessing any of these types of tools, be aware of any sites that promise you any of the following results:
A. Influence your link target's ranking in the search engines.
B. Influence your link target's page ranking in the search engines.
The reason why I say this is simply because nobody knows what the search engines use to produce such results. Irrespective of any tests that any individuals
may have ran, nobody can guarantee you better search engine placement, or better page rank, by simply placing comments on blogs.
However, having said that, here's the contradiction...
Just by commenting on relevant blogs, I too have had great results in terms of better rankings and better page rank, but can I guarantee that it will happen
over and over, no. Can I guarantee that it will happen to you, again the answer is a resounding no!
It's the main reason why we've never promoted this fact and stood by and watched while others have made the topic look sexy on the outside, but on the inside
the story kind of stinks. Quoting what the search engines will do, is a very thin line to walk indeed.
So in short...
Yes it has happened to many people that they too have received better seacrh engine placement and better page rank, but because we, as mere mortals have no
clue what the big three search engines have in mind, it's questionable to use that as selling point...
Having said all of that, what these tools can do for you, guaranteed is the following:
1. Save you time by automating your searches for related blogs to post your comments on.
2. Sorts the results you find in order of page rank. A typical search could return results ranging from page rank 1 -7... (depending on your chosen niche).
3. When you read and leave value adding comments plus your backlink on blogs, search engine spiders will pick them up, follow them and index your site(s).
In other words, these types of tools are great for getting your sites indexed quickly and easily.
4. In addition, real human beings read your posts and if you've written something of value, they will click on your link. Which means they are also F.R.E.E
targeted traffic generating tools.
5. Puts you in a great position of being able to contact and form relationships with the owners of blogs that you find IN YOUR NICHE... Which means, if used
correctly, you have a powerful networking tool in your hands also.
So now that you're all clued up on the topic of no follow and you have an idea of what the tools Michelle has shown you can do, go give 'em a try out.
Stewart Alexander
gr,
Remco
In answer to the question what is nofollow, it is an instruction for spiders not to follow any links mentioned within the tag. The purpose could be either to try and stop spiders wasting their time crawling stuff you are not interested in having indexed, or more likely an attempt to control the flow of link juice. It has been widely believed that Yahoo ignored them anyway, but if Google still indexes them, then they are not as worrisome as previously thought.
Charlie
This is a useless experiment, but it is an excellent link-bait article to get lots of links! :D
Great Posting
I'm sure that you're wright, but the links with nofollow counts less then links with dofollow.
Can I use 30 min backlinks to promote my music?
There's no competition for the word, and it never gets any searches online.
Just wondering.
Great blog too.
-The key part to focus on was that the keyword phrase was not on the page that got ranked. It was only on the pages that were linking back to her page. Since it was her paged that ranked and not the ones that actually had the keyword phrase on them, the backlinks from those sites had to be the factor in her page getting ranked for that phrase. Also, keep in mind that since the keyword was not on her page it wasn't that the links were followed by the spiders, but that the search engines gave her page credit based solely on the backlinks.
-This isn't an article on how to rank #1 in Google using only nofollow links. Nor is it to prove how much value the nofollow backlinks have, just that they do have some value. The idea to take away from this is that nofollow backlinks aren't the complete waste of time that many people believe them to be.
i think it helps indexing
That would make a big difference. Yes?
If nofollow does not contribute to your PR it would still offer links to your site. The issue is, how much time are you willing to spend to gain site importance with little reward? Every link counts but some links make bigger steps forward than others.
I am so confused.
I figured they had some sort of validity.
I guess doing whatever you can sure helps!
I too thought commenthut is for no-follow tags but in any case do you put your kw where name is PLUS also an anchor text when you comment or is that overkill? I think it's true for low competition phrases that the results would be good but not for high.
Deb
Google has really been pushing the use of the nofollow tag.
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John D.
http://www.widecircles.com
Social Media Marketing
The final result was :
All links which is shown up in Google Webmaster Tools and Google Webmaster Tools does not differentiate between incoming links that pass link popularity and links that don’t.
Inbound links are still inbound links irrespective of the nofollow attribute in it. Plus, they’re still valuable from a business perspective as they can funnel targeted traffic to your site.
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Mike Smith
www.antivirusremedies.com
Thank you
Great article. I to like the other 50 replies here was confused about nofollow blogs. I use commenthut as well and is a valuable tool to find wordpress blog that accept comments. i avoided the nofollow higher PR sites, but from now on I will comment on those sites as well.
Thanks,
Craig, Real Sports Fan Stuff
Hows about going for "Coolest Hermit on the Planet?"
;-)
Alex
I have a doubt: when commenting on blog posts, the Anchor Text is only used at the "website box" in the personal details of the person who is commenting, or it must be used in the body of the text?
I don't know if all blog comments accept HTML code to make anchor texts (i.e.: Dinero y Negocios) Or another method should be used?
Looking forward to your response.
Kindest Regards,
Alex Kei
I noticed that Yahoo! Answers (which also has a NoFollow attribute) recognize some of my comments there and this is a great in terms of Search Engine rankings!
I love reading your articles and posts. Please keep us uptaded.
To the best of my knowledge, the big G has never proclaimed that a) nofollows don't add to page reputation nor b) that the number of sites linking to you are not part of the algorithm. At minimum, it looks more natural if you have a good mix of backlinks.
I'm sure some others could comment on links on a authority site which uses no follow.
Chris
would be nice to have someone experiment new stuff? I love it!....just found your site and scan around c what I can learn from you. I used to stay away "no-follow" site and forum for only one reason and you know what that is....? Hell spend five minute wouldn't be hurt.I give it a try.:) thanks again.
Should I post to forums with high index page but the actual page for putting links has no PR at all? Will google still consider this as a boost to my PR?
here's my take... people should stop doing their nutz over nofollow / dofollow. google is heavily assessing on links coming from broad social contribution, ie blog comments, videos, web 2 properties, bookmarks, directories, photo sharing, social networks and the list goes on.
the point... be active in ALL of it and ignore what everyone says about nofollow -- just get LINKS!!!
the fact is the only reason I commented here was.
1/. I like Michelle
2/. To get a link with anchor text
I did not check if she has enabled dofollow on this blog -- personally i don't care.
Cheers,
Matty T
Thanks!
Dr. Sadovnik
Explain that SEO masters... also... how can i after 3 weeks be in G first page for my main keyword with only one dofollow link or 2 maybe and if they are 2, i can say they are from the same website just from different pages.
Do all the testing you want. after all i'm going to post the link here and the keyword i use.